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== Statistics 2012 ==
==18th Anniversary and Business Meeting==
=== Red links ===
* Save the date. I have booked [[Rojo]]'s side room for an 18th anniversary party and business meeting on the afternoon of Sunday, March 17, 2024 (St Patrick's Day) from 1:00 to 4:00. The agenda for the business meeting is "Time to Grow Up", and we will aim to draft an advisory committee which will take up the task of discussing the future of the website (succession plans, etc.)  Anyone interested is invited to join us. More information to come. Feel free to contact me with questions, etc. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 10:05, 1 February 2024 (CST)
As of January 25, 2012, there are currently [http://www.bhamwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Wantedpages&limit=500&offset=34000 34,412 wanted articles] with 67,920 links to them (red links). (The majority only have one link to them.)  The front page says we have about 8,559 articles, meaning we're 19.92% complete.  The last time I did this (June 15, 2011), we were at 8,228 articles with 33,320 wanted ones (19.80% done), so we made some progress even though we added 1,965 red links. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 15:13, 25 January 2012 (PST)
** I have created an event page on Facebook. If you haven't been invited to interact with that page and would like to be, just let me know. Facebook interaction is by no means a requirement for actually coming to the party. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 14:43, 12 February 2024 (CST)
* Good to hear. If I haven't said so before, my approach to red links is to put them around any topic which "could" have an article, not just those that "should" or "probably will" have articles. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 06:56, 26 January 2012 (PST)
*** Thank you to everyone who showed up. It was a surprisingly good turnout and very enjoyable. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 11:23, 19 March 2024 (CDT)
** Update: As of January 24, 2013, we have 36,583 wanted articles (with 70,837 red links) and 9,107 posted ones. By that [eccentric] measure, we're now 19.93% complete. Some progress made despite the addition of 2,171 red-links. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 12:13, 24 January 2013 (PST) [and corrected by [[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 14:07, 24 January 2013 (PST)]
*** And ignore my calculations in the previous page comment. I meant you did BLUE/RED instead of BLUE/(RED + BLUE). --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 14:09, 24 January 2013 (PST)


=== wikiFactor ===
===Remarks===
:''"WikiFactor" is a measure of a site's popularity, derived by finding which is the last page (on [[Special:Popularpages]]) to have 1000x the number of page views as the number of its ranking.''
* You can find a copy of my remarks here: [[Bhamwiki talk:Messageboard/18th Anniversary notes]]. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 20:01, 18 March 2024 (CDT)
And our wikiFactor is now 20, up from 16 in mid-September 2011. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:44, 3 February 2012 (PST)
* I think we're up to 22 now. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 09:51, 17 March 2012 (PDT)
** And as we close in on a year since I discovered wikiFactor, it's now up to 26.  We went up ten in just under a year. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:05, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
** As of January 22, 2013, our "WikiFactor" seems to be 29. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 10:10, 22 January 2013 (PST)


==Anniversary dinner 2012==
===Advisory committee ===
[[Image:Bhamwiki 6th anniversary dinner.jpg|right|200px|thumb|6th anniversary dinner]]
* As mentioned in my spoken notes, I do plan to convene an advisory committee or like body, using the names proferred in March (and any others who are interested). I expect to be sending out an email in the next week or so. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 16:33, 10 May 2024 (CDT)
* There will be a dinner, on or about March 15. Details to come soon. Comments welcomed already. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 04:36, 23 February 2012 (PST)
** As always, weekends work better for me, but the celebration isn't about me.  The Saturday after the 15th is St. Patrick's Day, if that makes a difference.  DST begins March 11.  Both weekends appear equally open for me at the moment.  As far as food goes, we've done Jim & Nick's BBQ, pizza, brunch, J&N BBQ, and pizza.  Does that mean we have to do brunch again? :-)  Coincidentally, I might be bringing an under 1-year-old again, just like when we did brunch last time.  --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 07:02, 23 February 2012 (PST)
*** OK. We don't have to do brunch again. What do you guys think about starting fairly early (5:00 or so) on Saturday at [[ROJO]]? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 07:50, 2 March 2012 (PST)
**** Since that's walking distance from my parents, I'm always agreeable with Rojo.  But which Saturday? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 09:51, 2 March 2012 (PST)
***** Saturday the 17th. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:41, 2 March 2012 (PST)
****** Looks like we'll miss it this year. Our baby is due the next week. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 21:04, 2 March 2012 (PST)
******* How is that supposed to excuse you? Oh well. Maybe we can do lunch again soon. I need to talk some geocaching stuff with you. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:02, 4 March 2012 (PST)
******** Oh, and congrats! --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:03, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
* Thanks for another great anniversary dinner, [[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]]! --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 07:36, 20 March 2012 (PDT)
 
== Shades Valley vs. Oxmoor Valley ==
 
Does anyone know the difference between [[Shades Valley]] and [[Oxmoor Valley]]?  My sense of Oxmoor Valley is rather vague, but looking at the [http://alabamamaps.ua.edu/historicalmaps/topos/jefferson15min.html 1907 15 minute quadrangle of Bessemer], Shades Valley extends well southwest of what I think of as Oxmoor Valley.  Is Oxmoor Valley just the small valley between Little Shades Mountain and Shades Mountain?  If so, what about the valley between Bald Ridge and Shades Mountain?  Both of those valleys are where Shades Creek is found, yet neither is labeled with a name on this map.  We need to recruit a pro or serious hobbyist geologist/geographer/cartographer. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 09:52, 27 February 2012 (PST)
 
==Testing a new template==
* Just thinking about how many times I've typed "''Birmingham News''" and made a [[:Template:BN]] which can be substituted. I also added the "The" since Lee likes it. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 09:10, 12 May 2012 (PDT)
**Most awesome news! [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 08:25, 13 May 2012 (PDT)
** Yay! --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 08:12, 14 May 2012 (PDT)
** And if you weren't paying attention, we've also added templates for {{BBJ}} (BBJ), {{BPH}} (BPH), {{B&W}} (B&W), {{NJN}} (NJN), {{SCR}} (SCR), and {{Weld}} (Weld).  Although I suppose I could have saved myself some trouble by just pointing to [[Bhamwiki:Templates#Reference templates]]. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:14, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
 
== Year process ==
 
I documented [[User:Lkseitz/Year_process|my process for creating needed year pages]] for the reasons stated at the top of that page.  I thought it might be helpful to provide a pointer here. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:10, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
* On behalf of posterity, I thank you. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 11:35, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
 
== Cities vs. Towns ==
 
I thought I'd mentioned this somewhere, but I can't find it, so I'll do so here (possibly again).  According to the Code of Alabama [http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/acas/CodeOfAlabama/1975/11-40-6.htm Section 11-40-6], municipalities with less than 2,000 people are towns while those with 2,000 or more are cities.  The latest U.S. Census (not estimate) determines the population.  A few towns became cities after the 2010 Census, like [[Kimberly]]. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:19, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
*Oops. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 10:46, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
** No biggie.  I was going to fix it, but I got distracted by historical populations.  Then I saw what Dystopos did with [[Shelby County]] and decided I'd get back to it later. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 12:36, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
 
== Orphaned pages ==
 
Want to help Bhamwiki, but don't have the time or inclination to write an entire article?  Why not adopt one of our over 500 [[Special:Lonelypages|orphaned pages]]?  These are articles that exist, but are not linked to by any other articles.  The only way to reach them is by searching or browsing the categories.  You could pick one and see if there are existing articles that should link to it.  For example, I added a link to the [[Woodlawn Board of Aldermen]] from the [[Woodlawn]] article.  Some pages in the list need to remain orphans, like disambiguation pages.  And some really are too esoteric to link to from any existing articles . . . so far.  But some probably have some natural links that just haven't been made yet. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:54, 7 September 2012 (PDT)
 
== Official Birmingham city song? ==
I have been pondering this for a while now- the state has an official song, albeit most think it's "My Home's in Alabama" due to the effort to make that the state song a while back, but that's another argument. What we need is an official song that basically equates to us. I've been tinkering now and then in my secret lab with my guitar, but nothing substantial yet. In the mean time, I'd like to open the floor to anyone with a good song suggestion, and I'll start- Whether he was intending to be satirical or not (like his usual work- don't get me started on "Short People"), Randy Newman's "Birmingham" seems to describe the way things were in the past, and in my eyes, where we want the city to get back to in some form while still moving forward. I'd love to have a dog named Dan who was "the meanest dog in Alabam' ". Feel free to post your thoughts. --[[User:Jared Johnson|Jared Johnson]] 12:11, 15 September 2012 (PDT)
* The chamber of commerce endorses "Sweet Birmingham" by Robert Moore, as recorded by Taj Mahal. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 17:06, 15 September 2012 (PDT)
* A very nice song, first time I've ever heard it. I like it, kinda catchy, sounds like something that would have been came up with somewhere near the Carver Theater by someone with a saxophone and some spare time. --[[User:Jared Johnson|Jared Johnson]] 15:25, 16 September 2012 (PDT)
 
==Unhacked?==
* Matthew Sheets tells me that he not only fixed the problem that had Bhamwiki down today, but also fixed the hack that had us advertising for unwholesome products. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 18:14, 25 September 2012 (PDT)
** Huzzah!  Give him an award of some kind! --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 06:37, 26 September 2012 (PDT)
 
== Year pages status ==
 
BTW, with the completion of 1949, users can now seamlessly visit each decade from today to the 1790s (or vice versa) using the decade boxes at the bottom of each year.  There's still several years missing in the 20th century, but we're getting there.  --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 07:00, 1 November 2012 (PDT)
 
== iPad editing ==
Can I just go ahead and say that editing the wiki with Safari and the default keyboard on an iPad really, really, really sucks. I miss my real keyboard with {, [, and other non-alpha characters that are readily accessible! I apologize in advance for any articles I post on weekends that don't have the proper format, categories, etc. If any of you have any suggestions, or know of any aps that will make my life easier, please feel free to let me know. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 08:19, 26 November 2012 (PST)
* Yeah, it's not much fun with my phone, either. I sometimes find it easier to copy and paste an existing link and change the word inside than to go to the virtual keyboard and find the correct bracket. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:06, 26 November 2012 (PST)
** I never would have thought to try. Is the current version of Wikipedia easier to interact with on a mobile device? There is a plan to upgrade to the latest stable version of Mediawiki sometime soon. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 11:45, 26 November 2012 (PST)
*** I haven't tried to edit Wikipedia on the iPad yet. I am currently without a computer at home, Vista crashed on my lastest laptop a couple of weeks ago. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 11:49, 26 November 2012 (PST)
**** The answer for me at least is, get a wireless qwerty keyboard. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 21:50, 5 December 2012 (PST)
 
== $150 ==
 
The main page "In the news" section refers to a $150 bond issue, I belive you left out the word "million". [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 12:00, 26 November 2012 (PST)
 
== Telephone books ==
I've discovered some old Birmingham telephone books in the collections of the Internet Archive.  So far I've only found [http://archive.org/details/usteledirecbirm1920y 1920] and [http://archive.org/details/usteledirec00046 1945].  I did a cursory search, but that's all the luck I've had.  If anyone has a little time to dig into deeper, please feel free (and share your results). --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:36, 24 January 2013 (PST)
 
== 2013 anniversary ==
Our 7th Anniversary is coming up, and I've been irresponsible about scheduling a meet-up. If you guys want to get together on Friday 15 or Saturday 16, I can make it, but I can't help plan it because I'll be away from email and such for the two weeks between now and then. I promise to check back and see if there's somewhere I need to be. If not, I'll get back with you and put something together for a later weekend. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 20:29, 1 March 2013 (PST)
* Sadly, it looks like I'm probably unavailable every weekend from the 15th on in March. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 20:53, 1 March 2013 (PST)
**Since this has come and gone, do we want to do a belated Anniversary dinner in early April? [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 19:29, 24 March 2013 (PDT)
*** I'm ready when y'all are. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 06:46, 25 March 2013 (PDT)
*** Looks like I might not be free until the weekend of April 20. Some stuff on the calendar may not be set in stone, though, so let me check. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 08:28, 26 March 2013 (PDT)
**** Okay, looks like 4/12-13 or 4/19-21 are the best days for me. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 12:06, 27 March 2013 (PDT)
***** Any of those is fine with me. Saturdays might be a little easier if we want to start on the early side. As of yet, I don't have any suggestions where to meet. Silvertron again, maybe? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 16:11, 27 March 2013 (PDT)
****** Sigh.  I received information about more things after posting.  If you want to do Saturday, it looks like April 13 would be best.  Silvertron is fine with me. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 09:18, 28 March 2013 (PDT)
******* April 13 should work for us. Silvertron works too! I haven't been there since the last time we went. Plus 1 and a highchair, please. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 14:34, 28 March 2013 (PDT)
* We'll meet at 6:30 PM at [[Silvertron Café]] in Forest Park on Saturday, April 13. If you're on Facebook, you can get more info and RSVP [http://www.facebook.com/events/547326618640994/?ref=22 here]. If you're not, just let me know to expect you. I'm looking forward to seeing all you strangers. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:51, 29 March 2013 (PDT)
** There will be an after-party at Desert Island Supply Co. (DISCO) in Woodlawn, too. Details soon! --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 10:47, 29 March 2013 (PDT)
*Planning on being there if I don't forget about it. I'm a maybe on Facebook. Also, if someone wants to give me a ride from Silvertron to DISCo that would make my life easier considering the current state of mass transit.--[[User:Jared Johnson|Jared Johnson]] 19:00, 7 April 2013 (PDT)

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18th Anniversary and Business Meeting

  • Save the date. I have booked Rojo's side room for an 18th anniversary party and business meeting on the afternoon of Sunday, March 17, 2024 (St Patrick's Day) from 1:00 to 4:00. The agenda for the business meeting is "Time to Grow Up", and we will aim to draft an advisory committee which will take up the task of discussing the future of the website (succession plans, etc.) Anyone interested is invited to join us. More information to come. Feel free to contact me with questions, etc. --Dystopos (talk) 10:05, 1 February 2024 (CST)
    • I have created an event page on Facebook. If you haven't been invited to interact with that page and would like to be, just let me know. Facebook interaction is by no means a requirement for actually coming to the party. --Dystopos (talk) 14:43, 12 February 2024 (CST)
      • Thank you to everyone who showed up. It was a surprisingly good turnout and very enjoyable. --Dystopos (talk) 11:23, 19 March 2024 (CDT)

Remarks

Advisory committee

  • As mentioned in my spoken notes, I do plan to convene an advisory committee or like body, using the names proferred in March (and any others who are interested). I expect to be sending out an email in the next week or so. --Dystopos (talk) 16:33, 10 May 2024 (CDT)
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