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# [[User talk:Lkseitz/Archive 1|April - August 2006]]
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# [[User talk:Lkseitz/Archive 3|January&ndash;December 2007]]
# [[User talk:Lkseitz/Archive 4|January&ndash;December 2008]]
# [[User talk:Lkseitz/Archive 5|January&ndash;December 2009]]
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==succession boxes==
==Sterling Foster==
Nice work with the boxes. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 22:25, 22 September 2006 (PDT)
* I meant to have taken the dates from the SHPC page. I must have used the wrong set. My bad. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 15:33, 9 April 2010 (PDT)


==portal==
==Templates==
* I'm taking a stab at preparing a "portal" on sustainability topics for a [[Catalyst4Birmingham]] task force to use. You can see my progress at [[BhamWiki:Sustainability]]. For our own purposes, I'm planning to someday set up similar portals for history, sports, business, music, etc. -- Right now, though, there are a couple of things I don't know how to fix and I wondered if you could help. I've used [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Earth_sciences Wikipedia's Portal:Earth sciences]] as a model. (With the difference that I've decided to use the BhamWiki: namespace for our portals). The first difference I see is that WP's portal puts the included text into the box where mine drops it below. The second difference is that the "edit" links in the WP header bars actually take you somewhere, where our don't. And third, the subpages in the WP portal have links back to the main portal, where mine doesn't. -- Any thoughts? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 16:43, 10 October 2006 (PDT)
* It might be a good idea to start a [[Bhamwiki:Templates]] page to document what's available. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 09:52, 27 April 2010 (PDT)
** Agreed. I'll see if I can get to it soon. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:50, 27 April 2010 (PDT)
** Behold, [[Bhamwiki:Templates]]. Kinda lengthy, but there you go.  BTW, [[Bhamwiki:Licensing templates]] needs to be updated and I don't have permissions to do it. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 15:19, 4 May 2010 (PDT)
*** Awesome. I took the lazy way out and unprotected it. (I still have two years of homicide prosecutions to review, and then the Birmingham Americans...) --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 15:23, 4 May 2010 (PDT)
**** Okay, [[Bhamwiki:Licensing templates]] is updated, [[Bhamwiki:Media templates]] has been written, and the media templates categorized into [[:Category:Media templates|their own category]]. It looks like [[Template:Fair use-ad|ads]], [[Template:Fair use-Logo|logos]], and [[Template:Fair use-Program|programs]] still need media templates, as those three types of things still have individual fair use templates.  I suspect it was something you were going to do, took a break from, and then forgot about.  I might work on it in the future, but not today.  If you want to, I think the following templates can be deleted, but you might want to double-check that we're not using them: [[Template:Fair use-Book]],[[Template:Fair use-CD]], and [[Template:Fair use-Program]]. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 12:12, 5 May 2010 (PDT)
***** I'm intimidated by the number of edits needed to replace the logo template. Any ideas? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:09, 5 May 2010 (PDT)
****** I hadn't looked at the numbers.  Over 600, eh?  Well, maybe logos can just continue to be a special case, then. And in case you were wondering why I said the program fair use template could be deleted, I meant to say [[Template:Fair use-Postcard]].  (And it's redirect, [[Template:Fair use-Post card]].)  Sorry, I trimmed the wrong thing after I copied & pasted. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 07:32, 6 May 2010 (PDT)
* On the UAB template, you might want to add the latest residence hall, [[NFR_Hall]] to the Housing section. [[User:Robert Matthews|Robert Matthews]] ([[User talk:Robert Matthews|talk]]) 08:41, 19 August 2016 (PDT)
** Thanks and done. You're always welcome to modify them yourself. It may seem intimidating, but just adding an entry is a copy, paste, and change the link. And if you just can't get it, you can always undo your changes. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 07:53, 20 August 2016 (PDT)


:#The problem with the text being outside the boxes is a &lt;/div&gt; is getting inserted immediately after the one that opens to contain the text.  Unfortunately, I cannot determine the cause for this.  It doesn't appear to be in a template; rather it looks like something the software's doing (but I could be mistaken).
==4th Avenue==
:#The edit buttons not working seems to have to do with the "<nowiki>{{#if:{{{section|}}}|&section={{{section|}}}}}}}</nowiki>" bit in the template. This is called a predefined template over on Wikipedia. I'm suspecting this predefined template simply doesn't exist on BhamWiki, thus it doesn't do anything. You might try taking that bit out. I think, for your purposes, the links will work without it.
* Right on. I started that article once, but didn't take care to save intermittently (or to compose it in wordpad or something) and lost it to a power interruption. That kind of thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 16:48, 9 August 2010 (PDT)
:#I'm guessing the sub-pages linking back to the portal has to do with using the "Portal" namespace (instead of "Wikipedia" or, in our case, "Bhamwiki").  Of course, it's possible the whole portal thing isn't implemented here at BhamWiki. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 19:41, 10 October 2006 (PDT)
** Yeah, I hate losing work like that and also really hate redoing it. I was looking at the [[Special:Wantedpages|wanted pages]] list and 4th Avenue North was the highest ranked article that wasn't a year or a big event (e.g. World War II), so I thought I'd knock it out. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:43, 10 August 2010 (PDT)
*** I'm so glad to hear you're working on that WWII article, now! Here's a template ([http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1348 EofA]) and a good read: ([http://books.google.com/books?id=YQQNlqfprrMC&lpg=PP1&ots=Ibilatxqvv&dq=Forth%20to%20the%20Mighty%20Conflict%3AAlabama&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false 0817350276]) --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 11:05, 10 August 2010 (PDT)
**** Nice try, but I wouldn't know to begin how to summarize World War II for Bhamwiki.  I think 1978 is more of a scale that I could handle. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:19, 10 August 2010 (PDT)


::: Thanks for taking a look. I think you're right about not having a portal implementation here. If I try to create Portal:Foo it just ends up being a project page as far as mediawiki is concerned.
==1978 or 1977?==
All of your "Context" entries on the [[1978]] page reference [[1977]] but they do not match the Context entries on the 1977 page.  I am confused.  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 14:35, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
* It's called, "I copied from 1977 and removed all but the beginnings of the sentences, then forgot to change the year as I filled it out."  Fixed now. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 14:46, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
:*I figured but wasn't 100% sure.  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 14:54, 27 August 2010 (PDT)


:::So.. I'd like to figure out how to put the text in the box. I noticed that the [[:Template:Box-footer]] as implemented on Wikipedia had an extra <nowiki></div></nowiki> when it was copied over here. It wasn't closing anything, so it just printed out all over my portal here. So I deleted it. I guess what I need to figure out is how to open that command in the right place (and what the command should consist of.. all way over my head). I also think it's important to get an edit link in the header that sends people to the right sub-page even if we have to fake it. I did fake a reverse link by putting it within <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> tags on the subpage. Thanks again. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 19:54, 10 October 2006 (PDT)
== RReach reverts ==
When you reverted Ray Reach's web site listings, you also removed several album covers he'd added previously ([[James Clark (singer)|1]], [[Mark Dunn|2]], [[UAB SuperJazz featuring Ellis Marsalis|3]], [[Magic City Jazz Orchestra|4]], [[Amy Drinkwater|5]], [[Doc Snow|6]]). Was that intentional? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:31, 26 January 2011 (PST)
* No. Oops. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 11:32, 26 January 2011 (PST)
** Fixed 'em. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 15:14, 26 January 2011 (PST)
*** You're a peach. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 15:16, 26 January 2011 (PST)


::::The &lt;/div&gt; in [[Template:Box-footer]] is supposed to close one opened in [[Template:Box-header]].  I attempted to add a &lt;/div&gt; tag to the end of [[Template:Sustainability box-footer]], but the system treated it as literal text instead of an HTML tag, which confounds me. I've now tried it for Box-footer, but again the system treated it as text instead of a tag.  I don't understand why. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 04:54, 11 October 2006 (PDT)
== BBSs ==
* Bring it. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 19:53, 5 August 2011 (PDT)


==Infobox schools==
==Almanac==
I've created an infobox for K-12 schools. You can see an example at Vestavia Hills High School. Unfortunately the lack of #if means all fields are required. Feedback desired. --Lkseitz 15:06, 25 October 2006 (PDT)
* Got a pamphlet, "Alabama Anniversary: 365 Events of Significance in the History of Alabama" prepared by the Alabama Historical Association, published by WAPI-WAFM-WABT in 1953. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]]


:That's a lovely and inobtrusive box. That's important to me. In fact, the smaller the better. Looks like we could reduce the space between the columns a bit and omit the "www." from the link (or just show the word "link" in light blue next to the heading "website"). I think the name of the school should be inside the box (with no divider above the image) and, if you can make some of the fields optional, that would be grand. Otherwise, great job! --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 15:53, 25 October 2006 (PDT)
==1922 & 1924 Bham city directories==
* Supposedly online, but I'm not having success viewing them. ([http://books.familysearch.org/primo_library/libweb/action/search.do?fn=search&vl(freeText0)=Business+enterprises+--+Alabama+--+Birmingham+--+Directories%3b+Alabama%2c+Jefferson%2c+Birmingham+-+Directories%3b+Business+enterprises+--+Alabama+--+Jefferson+County+--+Directories%3b+Alabama%2c+Jefferson+-+Directories%3b&tab=default_tab&mode=Basic&scp.scps=scope%3a(DCMS-FHD)&vid=FHD_PUBLIC&vl(52089205UI1)=all_items&vl(1UIStartWith0)=exact&vl(37629025UI0)=sub link]) --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 05:16, 17 March 2012 (PDT)
** The 1922 directory is a 1,370 page PDF file, 457 megabytes. And the first page is blank, making it non-obvious that it has successfully loaded until you scroll down. But the good news is that it's text searchable (mostly)!  The bad news is too much information. For example, I doubt we want to list 39 separate businesses that had offices within the [[Lyric Theatre]]'s office space.  And that's just 1922!  (Perhaps a separate page with a sortable table for Lyric Building tenants?) I'm now trying to load the 1924 one. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 09:09, 19 March 2012 (PDT)


::I've done what I can to reduce spaces between columns. I've also reduced the total width of the box. I've changed the website text to "Link" because the URL doesn't work without the "www".  (This could be deceptive to someone who only had a printed version of the page.)  I've moved the school name.  Making fields optional is going to require getting #if to work in templates, which is beyond my skills and access level.  I've added it to the [[Homewood High School]] article too now. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:30, 26 October 2006 (PDT)
==Re:Birmingham addressing==
:::I hadn't considered the use of printed versions. I think it's good to keep the urls intact. I also linked the enrollment to a new [[List of high schools by enrollment]] which is in an embryonic state but might someday be useful. Regarding the #if's, if you get the skills I'll be happy to work with you on access - but don't worry about it on my account. I think at some point I'll have to contract with a programmer for a few tweaks. I'll get your wish-list before I make a step like that.
*I'm glad you pointed that page out to me. Maybe we can collaborate on merging the two somehow. And, on a side note, I've managed to lose the tinkerings page, in that I can't figure out how to find it. The main reason I made it was that I really want to get more involved in the wiki than I have been, but at the same time, I don't want to create random pages about things that only I would find interesting (I actually had an idea for a page running down the styles of street signage used in the city). I really enjoy feedback, and I also love being a part of this project. --[[User:Jared Johnson|Jared Johnson]] 12:28, 16 April 2012 (PDT)


:::By the way, in principle I'm still not a big fan of infoboxes. I find them to be rather redundant, to hog space, and to intimidate novice editors. This one does look nice though, and I definitely don't want to be squashing the ambitions of the people I rely on. By now BhamWiki is as much your baby as mine. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 12:07, 26 October 2006 (PDT)
==19th Century==
You've completed the 19th century. I've never completed anything. I think I even still have stub mayors. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 17:53, 22 August 2012 (PDT)
* But unlike other Bhamwiki articles, the years require no outside research (beyond the Wikipedia page for that year for context).  That makes them easier to crank out. And you created a whole freakin' wiki!  I believe that counts for something. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 07:31, 23 August 2012 (PDT)


::::I agree they can be redundant and take up space, but as we've discussed earlier, they can also lead to less awkward bits being put in the text.  Besides, I think in today's "gotta have it now" culture, they'll be popular with the casual surfer. Hopefully this one is straight-forward enough to not be too intimidating.  ([[User:Patriarca12|Chris]], not that he's a novice, was quick to add one to [[Hewitt-Trussville High School]].)
== [[Beechnut Street]] ==
I used "Locations" instead of "Notable locations" because the lodge and the gas station/restaurant are literally the only 2 buildings on the street. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 08:08, 26 November 2012 (PST)
* Ah, okay. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:08, 26 November 2012 (PST)


::::And thanks for saying that last bit, but considering my 90 articles (almost half of which are stubs) only make up 7% of BhamWiki, it's still your baby.  (Yes, I know I've done more than articles, but I imagine that's probably a similar percentage compared to you.) --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 06:34, 27 October 2006 (PDT)
== Overton Park ==
:::::* Percentages don't matter. Participation does. As publisher I have to take responsibility for BhamWiki's shortcomings but no one can force me to accept more than my share of credit for its strengths. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 06:54, 27 October 2006 (PDT)


::::Here are my $.02... Personally I do like the infoboxes. I understand they are redundant, but just as [[User:Lkseitz|Lee]] pointed out they do paint a quick, easy to follow image of the subject being examined. To be honest, I would like to see something similar for buildings we add to include things such as an image and other technical data --[[User:Patriarca12|Patriarca12]] 07:29, 27 October 2006 (PDT)
Now there's a third [[Overton Park]] in Mountain Brook. [http://www.welcometomountainbrook.com/parks-recreation.php Link]. You'll need to update your About templates, I am unfamiliar with them. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 08:23, 19 November 2013 (PST)
* Since Bhamwiki doesn't let us create templates with a variable number of arguments yet, we just point the last part to the disambiguation page. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 15:08, 19 November 2013 (PST)
** I need to talk to Mr. Sheets again. At this rate, we may be having a tech summit with dinner in March. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 06:25, 20 November 2013 (PST)


== Geneaology Research ==
==User groups & BBS numbers==
* I ran across [http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/BTN/btn056.txt this] today. If you're not the one who put it there, it may interest you. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:56, 9 January 2014 (PST)
** I don't remember if I provided that particular file, but I provided [http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/BTN/ some of these].  Mainly, I provided the impetus for someone else to dig up the complete set of files and provide them.  But I appreciate you thinking of me when you saw it!  Guess I should finish my web pages on the B'ham BBS scene. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 09:11, 9 January 2014 (PST)


Haha, yea, I'm only putting the info on the page that I'm certain relates to the person it's about, you don't have to worry about that. I'm searching on the net for the specific people and their relation to the history of Birmingham, so, unless the site says that they played a part in the founding of Birmingham, I'm not gonna inlude it. I'm gonna try and get in touch with family, but, since they live 300 hundred miles away in Geneva County, it's kinda hard to do much. There's always Thanksgiving!! [[User:AlabamaGuy2007|AlabamaGuy2007]] 20:09, 1 November 2006 (PST)
==GFDL==
* [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:GFDL]] , Looks like we have about 52 of them. Such is our legacy. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:53, 21 January 2014 (PST)
** Down to 18 now. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 06:27, 20 November 2017 (PST)


==Categorization==
== Southern disComfort ==
Do you think [[:Category:1972 buildings]] should become a subcategory of [[:Category:1972 works]] (etc) or do you think our coverage of buildings is likely to be so central that it needs to be directly under [[:Category:1972]]? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 10:05, 3 November 2006 (PST)
:You don't ask simple questions any more, do you? :-)  I could be persuaded to go either way, probably.  My current feeling is that a city's buildings are often a focal point (less so than the other things I've seen in the Works categories), so I lean to the argument that they should go directly under the Year instead of Works.  Perhaps reciprocal pointers should be added to [[:Category:Buildings]] and [[:Category:Works]], at least at the top level? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 14:07, 6 November 2006 (PST)
:: I suppose it is also possible to put Category:Buildings in '''both''' the works category and directly in the year category. Does that sort of redundancy cause any actual harm or does it just strike you as sort of messy? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:27, 6 November 2006 (PST)
:::I don't know any reason it would cause harm, but I'm no expert.  It does strike me as messy and indecisive.  This is one reason I'd like to see some categories given descriptions of what they apply to or mean (e.g. [[:Category:Civic boosters]], [[:Category:Community activists]]).  I tend to lump art and literature under "works" in my head, but not buildings.  Whether that's typical or not, I don't know that I can say. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 14:54, 6 November 2006 (PST)
::::I know what you mean. Some of these categories are pretty fluid, and I've changed or retired a few of them as their weaknesses become apparent. Feel free to use the Category Talk pages to hash out some of the ambiguities. The best definition will come, however, from what articles or subcategories find their way into them rather than from what we decide on a talk page. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:57, 6 November 2006 (PST)


==Locates==
Hey, 'Dib, we could probably use and update to the [[Southern disComfort]] article if you have a chance.  Of course, I'm presuming you know something of the event's status. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 09:44, 2 May 2014 (PDT)
I created [[Template:Locate]] to provide a link to Google Maps.  Unfortunately, I don't see any way to target it to a new window within the MediaWiki system. I've added it to the [[Homewood]] entry to act as an example.  Let me know what you think. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 14:34, 10 November 2006 (PST)
* Done. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 11:22, 2 May 2014 (PDT)


:Works like a charm! That's very cool. I don't think a new window is so important. People have back buttons and if they're clever like us they can right-click. I wonder if it would be best to go ahead and make the button say "Google Map", just to give credit where it's due? Also, do you know of a way to place the article name in the resulting map pointer, so it would say "Homewood" instead of "33.468306, -86.808146"? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:48, 10 November 2006 (PST)
== Steve ==
* I found the text of the [[Bhamwiki:Press|November 2006 article]] on a post by my mom on bookcrossing. She changed names to protect our identities. I assumed you were "Steve". Did I get that right? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 15:15, 16 September 2015 (PDT)


::* And it just now occurred to me, Google can find locations by address. Is it possible to make a template that uses a street address for input instead of lat/long?. I'm thinking of one that could be placed in the text, too, so, for example, I could put a little map link next to each entry in the [[List of Birmingham homicides in 2006]]. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:50, 10 November 2006 (PST)
== Administrator ==
I've made you and Darren administrators. The front page is now open to your business. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 07:40, 1 March 2016 (PST)
* Mwahahahaha! The power is mine! --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 06:15, 2 March 2016 (PST)


:::Unfortunately, setting the text of the map pointer isn't something you can do with a link, as far as I can tell. That would require JavaScript, and I haven't looked at the Google Maps API yet. (This would also mean showing the map on the article's page instead of as a link.)  You can pass a query, but then you get [http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=33.468306,-86.808146&spn=0.1,0.1&q=Homewood something like this], which doesn't include a pointer at all.  If you pass no query at all, [http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=33.468306,-86.808146&spn=0.1,0.1 you get a smaller map], still with no pointer.  We can have the link text say whatever. How about, "Locate with / Google Maps" (where the / indicates separate lines)?  I'll get started on an address template. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 19:15, 10 November 2006 (PST)
==Invasive vs Non-native==
I changed your new "invasive" categories to "non-native" for two reasons. First, "invasive" is a subset of non-native, which can include intentional or incidental introductions which do not spread uncontrollably or crowd out native species; and second because the determination of whether something is invasive is a bit of a judgment call and I don't know whose authority we would use to back up our categorization. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 06:26, 20 November 2017 (PST)
* Okay, that's fine. I wasn't sure "invasive" was the best term to use, but decided to "be bold" and just do it. Yours also has the advantage of being sorted closely together. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 05:05, 21 November 2017 (PST)
** Being bold improved the project. Good job. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 06:31, 21 November 2017 (PST)


::::*Okay, I've created [[Template:Locate_address]] and [[Template:Locate_address_inline]].  You can see tests at [[Alabama Theatre]] and the first two entries in [[List of Birmingham homicides in 2006]], respectively. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 20:03, 10 November 2006 (PST)
==MSAs==
:::::* I've already found them and I think you're a genius. Now I have to think of another award to hand out. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 20:12, 10 November 2006 (PST)
Thanks for tackling that MSA/CSA stuff. I took one look and backed away slowly. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 07:03, 16 June 2021 (PDT)
* No problem. Sorry I didn't realize the changes sooner. I noted that we need a new graphic. Might I suggest a single graphic highlighting the six counties of the Birmingham-Hoover MSA in one color and the Cullman, Jasper, and Talladega-Sylacauga MicroSAs each in different colors. Then we can use one graphic for all the articles and just note the color(s) for the current article in the caption. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 21:19, 16 June 2021 (PDT)


===Locate city template===
==BSC campaign==
I discovered just putting a city and state in Google Maps will work as well, so there's now a new template called [[Template:Locate city]].  If you find it satisfactory, I'll change the current city pages using the old template to use this one.  I've done [[Vestavia Hills]] as an example.  --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:58, 27 November 2006 (PST)
I guess I have to call them back and tell them that I won't, in fact, be able to cover their entire operating deficit. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 08:31, 20 December 2022 (PST)
* Seems appropriate to me. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:01, 27 November 2006 (PST)
* LOL. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 21:08, 21 December 2022 (PST)
 
===inline locate by lat/long===
I'm finding the inline template to be easier to work with than the box. Is it easy enough to make an inline version of the lat/long map link? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 20:49, 28 November 2006 (PST)
:Your wish is my command: [[Template:Locate coords inline]].  --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 07:24, 29 November 2006 (PST)
::You're a genius at making me look good. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:07, 29 November 2006 (PST)
 
==Highway 78==
I noticed you went through the site and "fixed" all the U.S. Highway 78 links. You probably know this and simply did it for consistency reasons, but for the benefit of anyone else who happens by I'll point out that, according to Wikipedia, it's more costly to the server to edit the article and change the link than it is to let it use the redirect. OTOH, earlier on that page it says the use of redirect links lower a page's search engine ranking. --Lkseitz 13:40, 21 November 2006 (PST)
 
:I was not aware of that guideline at all. As you know, I'm not huge fan of consistency, so I might find it easy to drop the habit of "fixing" redirects. That said, I don't think we're at a point where we need to concern ourselves with server load. Hosting issues aside, our server load is pretty minimal. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:31, 21 November 2006 (PST)
 
==Ron Casey==
This may interest you. Via [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dystopos#Thank_you Wikipedia User Talk:Dystopos]:
::''Thank you for the article on [[Ron Casey]], my father. Did you know him or his work? Also, thought I'd mention that I go to Tulane. Just thought that was an interesting coincidence when I looked at your user profile.'' --[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Annajeb&action=edit Annajeb] 03:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC) 03:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
--[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 07:00, 8 December 2006 (PST)
 
==Agnes==
* Lee, I think I may have steamrolled some of your clean-up on the [[Agnes]] article. I apologize. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:17, 21 December 2006 (PST)
:* No big deal.  You actually rewrote some of it while I just went through and did mechanical changes.  --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 08:28, 21 December 2006 (PST)
 
==Names in Categories==
*I didn't realize we were using the full name when we are categorizing people.  I did notice that WP does it that way but hadn't seen it here on BW.  I apologize for the cleanup you're having to do. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 11:50, 27 December 2006 (PST)
 
:* No problem.  I only just noticed it with the recent race car drivers entries.  We do it because it assures a logical system to the sorting in the category.  Using single letters you could wind up with the Allisons, for example, in any random order.  (I believe.)  --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 12:00, 27 December 2006 (PST)
 
:* Just to clarify, it's not necessary to pipe the article name after a category for sorting most of the time.  For example, "Amani Raha" will automatically be sorted by that name.  Sorting is primarily for people's names so they can be sorted "Last_name, First_name" instead of by the article name ("First_name Last_name").  Another special case is articles that are primary for a category (for example [[Cobb Lane (street)]]) should use "*" as the sorting character so they show up at the top of the articles in the category. In 99.9% of the cases, this should only apply to one article in the category.  And there's the weirdness [[User:Dystopos]] does with street numbers and street categories, but I won't get into that discussion again here. :-) --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 13:36, 2 January 2007 (PST)
 
::*Thanks... I was testing it to see what difference it made in articles that start with the same letter as where they need to be sorted.  That makes sense on the "*" thing, and I have used it in the past with my bank articles.  Again, thanks for being patient and know that I am learning.  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 13:55, 2 January 2007 (PST)
 
 
==Categories (Artintegrated)==
In converting your articles from the Wikipedia format, you're now doing a better job of eliminating links that won't be found here at BhamWiki. However, please try to remember to update the categories at the bottom of the entry, too. Thanks. --Lkseitz 06:45, 11 January 2007 (PST)
 
:I dont claim or even want to put up a perfect article. Reformatting for another system can be somewhat daunting. I normally leave that to the experts and I have no claims on that. On the other hand, my strong point BHWP is to add information. I seem to have plenty of that and I feel that that is of assistance. I will try to give you the most updated information that I have and correct to the best of my ability. Other people have excellent editing and article-building skills. I will do what I do best and you guys do what you do best. We should get along just fine.    Sweet! [[User:Artsojourner|Artsojourner]] 08:30, 11 January 2007 (PST)
 
==[[:Category:Death of brain cancer]]==
* I think "Category:Cancer deaths" is a better formulation than "Category:Deaths of cancer".. and I'm not sure that category will be so large that it needs to be subdivided. What's on your mind? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:19, 16 January 2007 (PST)
** Yes, that's a better name.  Thanks.  I'm writing an entry for [[Harold Ruttenberg]], who died of brain cancer.  A previous entry I wrote, [[Jack Farr]], also died of this.  I was simply guessing "Cancer deaths" could get to be a really, really big category and perhaps it should be subdivided.  It's easier to do that up front that go back and break it down after the fact.  But I guess that category will do for now. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 08:36, 16 January 2007 (PST)
 
== Bear Bryant ==
Thanks for the help with the cleanup on [[Bear Bryant]].  I had it almost perfect and clicked the wrong button and lost all my changes.  So I went back and re-copied it all from Wikipedia but had to rush through it to make it to a meeting I had to go to.  Anyway, thanks as always for all you do. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 14:37, 26 January 2007 (PST)
:You're welcome.  I ''hate'' it when that happens.  (You lose all your changes.) --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 15:00, 26 January 2007 (PST)
 
== Blizzard of 93 ==
 
I think it must be some sort of milestone when we have articles I didn't even know we had. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:05, 28 January 2007 (PST)
:Hee, hee.  Snuck one by you, did I? :-)  Actually, I geared up and did a bunch of web surfing to research it, but when I got down to writing it, I seemed to lose my motiviation, resulting in a stub I never went back to. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 14:15, 28 January 2007 (PST)

Latest revision as of 00:08, 22 December 2022

Archives
  1. April–August 2006
  2. September–December 2006
  3. January–December 2007
  4. January–December 2008
  5. January–December 2009

Sterling Foster

  • I meant to have taken the dates from the SHPC page. I must have used the wrong set. My bad. --Dystopos 15:33, 9 April 2010 (PDT)

Templates

  • It might be a good idea to start a Bhamwiki:Templates page to document what's available. --Dystopos 09:52, 27 April 2010 (PDT)
    • Agreed. I'll see if I can get to it soon. --Lkseitz 11:50, 27 April 2010 (PDT)
    • Behold, Bhamwiki:Templates. Kinda lengthy, but there you go. BTW, Bhamwiki:Licensing templates needs to be updated and I don't have permissions to do it. --Lkseitz 15:19, 4 May 2010 (PDT)
      • Awesome. I took the lazy way out and unprotected it. (I still have two years of homicide prosecutions to review, and then the Birmingham Americans...) --Dystopos 15:23, 4 May 2010 (PDT)
        • Okay, Bhamwiki:Licensing templates is updated, Bhamwiki:Media templates has been written, and the media templates categorized into their own category. It looks like ads, logos, and programs still need media templates, as those three types of things still have individual fair use templates. I suspect it was something you were going to do, took a break from, and then forgot about. I might work on it in the future, but not today. If you want to, I think the following templates can be deleted, but you might want to double-check that we're not using them: Template:Fair use-Book,Template:Fair use-CD, and Template:Fair use-Program. --Lkseitz 12:12, 5 May 2010 (PDT)
          • I'm intimidated by the number of edits needed to replace the logo template. Any ideas? --Dystopos 14:09, 5 May 2010 (PDT)
            • I hadn't looked at the numbers. Over 600, eh? Well, maybe logos can just continue to be a special case, then. And in case you were wondering why I said the program fair use template could be deleted, I meant to say Template:Fair use-Postcard. (And it's redirect, Template:Fair use-Post card.) Sorry, I trimmed the wrong thing after I copied & pasted. --Lkseitz 07:32, 6 May 2010 (PDT)
  • On the UAB template, you might want to add the latest residence hall, NFR_Hall to the Housing section. Robert Matthews (talk) 08:41, 19 August 2016 (PDT)
    • Thanks and done. You're always welcome to modify them yourself. It may seem intimidating, but just adding an entry is a copy, paste, and change the link. And if you just can't get it, you can always undo your changes. --Lkseitz (talk) 07:53, 20 August 2016 (PDT)

4th Avenue

  • Right on. I started that article once, but didn't take care to save intermittently (or to compose it in wordpad or something) and lost it to a power interruption. That kind of thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. --Dystopos 16:48, 9 August 2010 (PDT)
    • Yeah, I hate losing work like that and also really hate redoing it. I was looking at the wanted pages list and 4th Avenue North was the highest ranked article that wasn't a year or a big event (e.g. World War II), so I thought I'd knock it out. --Lkseitz 10:43, 10 August 2010 (PDT)
      • I'm so glad to hear you're working on that WWII article, now! Here's a template (EofA) and a good read: (0817350276) --Dystopos 11:05, 10 August 2010 (PDT)
        • Nice try, but I wouldn't know to begin how to summarize World War II for Bhamwiki. I think 1978 is more of a scale that I could handle. --Lkseitz 11:19, 10 August 2010 (PDT)

1978 or 1977?

All of your "Context" entries on the 1978 page reference 1977 but they do not match the Context entries on the 1977 page. I am confused. --Wheresdib 14:35, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

  • It's called, "I copied from 1977 and removed all but the beginnings of the sentences, then forgot to change the year as I filled it out." Fixed now. --Lkseitz 14:46, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
  • I figured but wasn't 100% sure. --Wheresdib 14:54, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

RReach reverts

When you reverted Ray Reach's web site listings, you also removed several album covers he'd added previously (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). Was that intentional? --Lkseitz 11:31, 26 January 2011 (PST)

  • No. Oops. --Dystopos 11:32, 26 January 2011 (PST)
    • Fixed 'em. --Lkseitz 15:14, 26 January 2011 (PST)
      • You're a peach. --Dystopos 15:16, 26 January 2011 (PST)

BBSs

  • Bring it. --Dystopos 19:53, 5 August 2011 (PDT)

Almanac

  • Got a pamphlet, "Alabama Anniversary: 365 Events of Significance in the History of Alabama" prepared by the Alabama Historical Association, published by WAPI-WAFM-WABT in 1953. --Dystopos

1922 & 1924 Bham city directories

  • Supposedly online, but I'm not having success viewing them. (link) --Dystopos 05:16, 17 March 2012 (PDT)
    • The 1922 directory is a 1,370 page PDF file, 457 megabytes. And the first page is blank, making it non-obvious that it has successfully loaded until you scroll down. But the good news is that it's text searchable (mostly)! The bad news is too much information. For example, I doubt we want to list 39 separate businesses that had offices within the Lyric Theatre's office space. And that's just 1922! (Perhaps a separate page with a sortable table for Lyric Building tenants?) I'm now trying to load the 1924 one. --Lkseitz 09:09, 19 March 2012 (PDT)

Re:Birmingham addressing

  • I'm glad you pointed that page out to me. Maybe we can collaborate on merging the two somehow. And, on a side note, I've managed to lose the tinkerings page, in that I can't figure out how to find it. The main reason I made it was that I really want to get more involved in the wiki than I have been, but at the same time, I don't want to create random pages about things that only I would find interesting (I actually had an idea for a page running down the styles of street signage used in the city). I really enjoy feedback, and I also love being a part of this project. --Jared Johnson 12:28, 16 April 2012 (PDT)

19th Century

You've completed the 19th century. I've never completed anything. I think I even still have stub mayors. --Dystopos 17:53, 22 August 2012 (PDT)

  • But unlike other Bhamwiki articles, the years require no outside research (beyond the Wikipedia page for that year for context). That makes them easier to crank out. And you created a whole freakin' wiki! I believe that counts for something. --Lkseitz 07:31, 23 August 2012 (PDT)

Beechnut Street

I used "Locations" instead of "Notable locations" because the lodge and the gas station/restaurant are literally the only 2 buildings on the street. --Wheresdib 08:08, 26 November 2012 (PST)

  • Ah, okay. --Lkseitz 10:08, 26 November 2012 (PST)

Overton Park

Now there's a third Overton Park in Mountain Brook. Link. You'll need to update your About templates, I am unfamiliar with them. --Wheresdib 08:23, 19 November 2013 (PST)

  • Since Bhamwiki doesn't let us create templates with a variable number of arguments yet, we just point the last part to the disambiguation page. --Lkseitz 15:08, 19 November 2013 (PST)
    • I need to talk to Mr. Sheets again. At this rate, we may be having a tech summit with dinner in March. --Dystopos 06:25, 20 November 2013 (PST)

User groups & BBS numbers

  • I ran across this today. If you're not the one who put it there, it may interest you. --Dystopos 08:56, 9 January 2014 (PST)
    • I don't remember if I provided that particular file, but I provided some of these. Mainly, I provided the impetus for someone else to dig up the complete set of files and provide them. But I appreciate you thinking of me when you saw it! Guess I should finish my web pages on the B'ham BBS scene. --Lkseitz 09:11, 9 January 2014 (PST)

GFDL

Southern disComfort

Hey, 'Dib, we could probably use and update to the Southern disComfort article if you have a chance. Of course, I'm presuming you know something of the event's status. --Lkseitz 09:44, 2 May 2014 (PDT)

Steve

  • I found the text of the November 2006 article on a post by my mom on bookcrossing. She changed names to protect our identities. I assumed you were "Steve". Did I get that right? --Dystopos (talk) 15:15, 16 September 2015 (PDT)

Administrator

I've made you and Darren administrators. The front page is now open to your business. --Dystopos (talk) 07:40, 1 March 2016 (PST)

  • Mwahahahaha! The power is mine! --Lkseitz (talk) 06:15, 2 March 2016 (PST)

Invasive vs Non-native

I changed your new "invasive" categories to "non-native" for two reasons. First, "invasive" is a subset of non-native, which can include intentional or incidental introductions which do not spread uncontrollably or crowd out native species; and second because the determination of whether something is invasive is a bit of a judgment call and I don't know whose authority we would use to back up our categorization. --Dystopos (talk) 06:26, 20 November 2017 (PST)

  • Okay, that's fine. I wasn't sure "invasive" was the best term to use, but decided to "be bold" and just do it. Yours also has the advantage of being sorted closely together. --Lkseitz (talk) 05:05, 21 November 2017 (PST)
    • Being bold improved the project. Good job. --Dystopos (talk) 06:31, 21 November 2017 (PST)

MSAs

Thanks for tackling that MSA/CSA stuff. I took one look and backed away slowly. --Dystopos (talk) 07:03, 16 June 2021 (PDT)

  • No problem. Sorry I didn't realize the changes sooner. I noted that we need a new graphic. Might I suggest a single graphic highlighting the six counties of the Birmingham-Hoover MSA in one color and the Cullman, Jasper, and Talladega-Sylacauga MicroSAs each in different colors. Then we can use one graphic for all the articles and just note the color(s) for the current article in the caption. --Lkseitz (talk) 21:19, 16 June 2021 (PDT)

BSC campaign

I guess I have to call them back and tell them that I won't, in fact, be able to cover their entire operating deficit. --Dystopos (talk) 08:31, 20 December 2022 (PST)

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